Dice Control

One of the first questions I always get asked is “Does Dice Control Work?”

The simple answer is “yes, it does”, and through logging of your dice throws, it can be proven mathematically that you are indeed not rolling the dice randomly.

Dice control is a SKILL, and you can be trained to become a controller shooter, reduce the advantage the casino has over you, and even get the advantage in your favor. Imagine a casino game where you mathematically have an edge over them.

One of the first tenants to understand in dice control is the Sevens to Roll Ratio (SRR).


The SRR is simple way to assess your ability to avoid rolling a seven. It does give you an idea of how “well” you are doing (how much control you have) and is one key indicator of how much edge you can achieve over the casino.

The SRR of a random roller is 1:6. This means the dice shooter is (on average) rolling a seven every six rolls. This falls in line with the normal distribution of outcomes given two six sided dice.

There maybe times where a random roller gets “hot” and has a long roll, but over time (a life time of dice throws) their statistical average will be that 1 out of every 6 throws is a seven (a SRR of 1:6). And with that, they will never have a advantage over the casino.

The SRR is still a great tool, however even Frank Scoblete write is his Book “The Golden Touch! Dice Control Revolution” …

he writes “the SRR is a simple, handy way to see if you are indeed starting to change the percentage at craps to favor you by reducing the appearance of the 7. It is not the best or the be-all and end-all of craps edge assessing.” (Emphasis added) He further writes “Keep in mind that a SRR, while an attractive tool for beginners, is not the absolute criteria for a controlled throw.

That being said, the SRR is still a great way to assess your dice control.

Another question I get asked is “How long does it take to become a controlled roller?”

One of the main key goals in becoming a controller roller is developing muscle memory. This can take about 3 to 4 weeks to develop. And I say this based upon the amount of time you practice . Say for example you wanted to log 1000 rolls. How long will this take you? With full access to a table, you could log about 100-200 rolls a day, without getting tired. And those 100-200 rolls would not be logged in one session. Ideally, they would be broken up over the day, maybe 50 rolls at a time. But the bottom line is that it will take time. In this age of wanting immediate results, don’t fool yourself by thinking you can achieve your goal in an hour or two. It will take time and practice. But the fruits of your labors will play out on the casino floor, for all to see, and with the chips in the rack at he table getting bigger and bigger. It will be sweet to say at the end of the session, “Color me up” versus walking away empty handed

Like anything in life, that really depends on how much effort you put into achieving this goal. One thing I can assure you is that it WILL take practice to become a controlled roller. Our Dice Control Class is a starting point on this journey, but individual practice and logging of your dice throws will (and understandingly so) be a crucial factor in your progress. Some Dice Control books advocate logging 3600 rolls and seeing what you SRR is AFTER that point. Other books advocate at least 1000 rolls for every hour of casino play. Some people can achieve a controlled dice roll in 1000 rolls, other will take 3600 rolls, but the main thing is that you log your rolls and keep assessing your SRR to determine just how much control you have over the dice.

If you have been at the craps table before, you know who the good rollers are and who they are not.  You can see the table start to bet on the controlled roller when he has the dice in his hands.  You know who are the people who roll one, two, or three times and they seven-out.

Can the controlled roller achieve results every time? The answer is yes! The best analogy to illustrate this is to look no further than the game of basketball. A professional basket ball player can consistently make free throws, although he will not do it every time. He’s been taught the mechanics of what he is to do in order to make the free throw. He’s at the professional level because he has practiced his free throws many, many times. The same goes with becoming a controlled roller. We can teach you how to achieve the perfect roll, but you are going to have to spend time practicing. Our 2 Hour class, Intro to Dice Setting, will arm you with the steps in order to become a controlled roller, but you will have to practice. I can coach you on what to do, but there is no way I’ll make you an expert in 2 hours. You can get yourself a practice rig, or a throwing station and practice your toss, but everybody knows, it’s best to practice on the real thing. That’s where we come in. We can offer you classes or just practice time. We can let you practice your rolls and track them for you. Let you simulate a real casino session and then analyze your rolls.

When you have a good roll what are your dice doing? Are they pitching on their axis, or are they going off axis? If they are staying on axis (which is what you want) how many times are they pitching from how you set them? If these are some of the things you’ve never though of, then let us help you out. Our “Dice Analysis” class is perfect for you.

If you are serious about the game of craps, we do offer you something that can be of value.  Try us out.  Our rates are reasonable and we feel you will walk away having gotten something of value for your money.

So you think you are a controlled Shooter?

The first thing a controlled dice shooter does is pick the correct place to stand.  The guy that stands at the end of the table, sets the dice precisely, then throws the dice 12 feet is NOT a controlled dice shooter, he’s a RANDOM roller.  The guy that stands next to the stick man and throws the shortest possible distance will have more success over that guy at the end of the table.   I tell you who else is NOT a controlled dice shooter.  The guy that takes his time setting the dice, then picks them up and shakes them in his hand before he throws is just another RANDOM roller.   You do NOT want to be a random roller.  A RANDOM roller may have a good roll once in a while, but it’s the controlled dice shooter who can CONSISTENTLY hold on to the dice before he seven-outs.  I can teach you the techniques to BECOME a controlled dice shooter.  This isn’t a gimmick or a “system” and it’s a SKILL I can teach you.  And I have the regulation size table for you to practice on.  Don’t practice at the casinos.  You’ll spend too much of your money perfecting your SKILL, and never get enough practice.  I can offer you lessons on controlled dice shooting, dice setting, and let you practice.  No casino is going to let you do